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[Scrappydoo 680]

im head struck to think if this is glitch or not glitch 

i would like to know others oppinions on this 

Glitch or No Glitch 

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[Call911 498]

It is a bug 70 percent player don't see player on balcony. Type on YouTube all glitches cod4 cf and you will see that balcony.

[stelthii 606]

I've always treated that spot on Crossfire as a "glitch" and thus punished those using that spot as our no glitching rule suggests. Here's my reasoning/opinion;

 

While it's true that the game is old and most people playing it are veterans and so they are aware of this spot, it is also true that the Crossfire server gets a lot of beginners since it's so high ranked on gametracker. Besides a positive gaming environment we do and should strive to provide an even playing field on all aspects as well, whether that is hacks, glitches or anything else.

 

For me half of the problem with spots like that is that a beginner will never see it coming. That balcony looks unreachable for a newbie. No internal staircase/ladder of any sort nor any obvious jump that lead there. Think about it yourself, you have to even climb the ledge in a specific way so you don't fall down in the first place. It's not a spot you can "discover" after playing around a bit. So moving back to our beginner, do you think he's going to check a balcony/spot he thinks is off limits? No chance he will and when he finds out he's getting killed from there, imagine the reaction. "Unfair" is probably the first word to come to mind.

 

The other half of the problem is that while the map has many spots/jumps that a promod player could use that balcony is the only one that one can consistently use to get kills - it's very easy to be abused and those that do go there, camp, instead of picking up 1 - 2 kills and continue with their rotation/movement. That practice ends up magnifying the problem even further in my opinion.

 

In any case,  I've always treated it as an off limits spot and was never told not to by a higher up.

[Razer 291]

I've also been treating this balcony as a glitch and ask people to move when they sit there. Never had to warn for it as people usually move when I tell them to.

 

Besides that it is commonly regarded as a glitch. There are youtube videos on how to get on this balcony most of which are calling it a glitch. I also don't think the developers intended this spot to be accessible (for some weird reason though this spot is available even in the Remastered version).

 

You can warn people for it as far as I'm concerned, unless a higher level admin thinks otherwise.

[MasterYI 566]

Its very easy folks

 

Rules-Rule #0 : No Hack/Cheat/Script/Skins/Scrollfire/Nade Switching/Glitch/Jump (excluding CJ and DR)

 

                                                                                                              JUMP

 

thus:

 

Scale of punishment-Rule #0: Glitching/Jumping/Script/Skins/Scrollfire = Warn > Kick > Tempban 1d > Tempban 7d > Tempban 3m

 

                                                        JUMPING

 

It gives you an unfair advantage just like any other hack/glitch, and therefor it shouldn't be allowed 

[Nomad 259]

In this sense it's very close to scrollfire: Are we need to use some side resorces to improve our client and gamplay? - Nope, everyone who have only game client can do that. Were developers waiting that this will happen? - I think they are not.

 

Well... I know that not all people can agree with me, but as @Razer said - getting to this balcony is not a possibility that developer wanted to "provide". And that's enouph for my opinion, because stuff like this changing a gameplay to some different way and that's not what many players want to see, if you understand what I am talking about.

 

That's my a bit specific opinion.

[Scrappydoo 680]

thanks for all your inputs 

[Evinrude 407]

Ahh, so this is the reason I was disconnected few days ago.

 

I have never considered this a glitch because it is easily reachable if you jump from the building across from the balcony (from the top of the ladder).

No special jumping or elevators or stuff needed.

 

Also, the player in the balcony is easily seen by snipers and killed easily, also by airstrikes.

 

But ok, so be it. Mby it is really so, that there are many new players who have no knowledge of the map.

 

IMHO usual sniper spot with limited visibility, best spot for camping on other team's snipers on 2nd floor.

[MasterYI 566]

Its easy to get there, yes, but for us, veterans. Not for a newbie who dont see that coming

[Finny 974]

Years ago i found it by watching glitch videos from yt. 

So for me its always been a glitch. 

[Puddingsbane 1153]

Ahh, so this is the reason I was disconnected few days ago.

 

Yea, about that :oki: . I even wrote to you in chat but nothing, it was yesterday.

[Runny 850]

no glitch here for me.

 

no need to strafe no need to bounce just climb the ladder and jump.

I dont know if the devs forgot about that spot or not but its not players fault if they trully did forgot that.

Besides that you can get very easily killed right there and the videos that consider this spot as a glitch are from the very early days of cod4, when everything new and strange was a ''glitch''.

 

a glitch is something that gives an unfair advantage over others. what kind of unfair advantage does this spot provide?

let me give u an example of a glitch.

in previous cod4 versions when u were sitting in front of the yellow little lights in the ground in backlot you couldnt be killed like you had g0d ability.

that one is a real glitch but jumping to a balcony w/o strafing/bouncing is noweher near a glitch.

Also an elevator is a glitch which of course isnt our case.

in 2018 tho i wont believe the majority of the players doesnt know that spot.

/10char

[JillyJill 5336]

Its very easy folks

 

Rules-Rule #0 : No Hack/Cheat/Script/Skins/Scrollfire/Nade Switching/Glitch/Jump (excluding CJ and DR)

 

                                                                                                              JUMP

 

thus:

 

Scale of punishment-Rule #0: Glitching/Jumping/Script/Skins/Scrollfire = Warn > Kick > Tempban 1d > Tempban 7d > Tempban 3m

 

                                                        JUMPING

 

It gives you an unfair advantage just like any other hack/glitch, and therefor it shouldn't be allowed 

 

The rule says it all, gg YI

[MasterYI 566]

a glitch is something that gives an unfair advantage over others. what kind of unfair advantage does this spot provide?

/10char

Highly ranked server. Tons of new players, some of them new to the game itself, others veterans. We have to ensure that everyone has the same oportunities, not just the old pals

[Evinrude 407]

Yea, about that :oki: . I even wrote to you in chat but nothing, it was yesterday.

Np mate, I just didnt notice it.