QuickBreakdown 1948 Posted April 17, 2019 Report Share Posted April 17, 2019 Hello guys, As some of you may know I'm working hard to receive my drivers license.I'm interested in your opinion on what you think is a nice beginners car (price/quality). Some suggestions I have received:Volkswagen PoloFord FiestaRenault ClioSome price factors you can think about (applicable in EU):Road tax (based on diesel/electric/...)MaintenanceInsuranceLets see your suggestions. Roohansama likes this Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FiNMikeZz 234 Posted April 17, 2019 Report Share Posted April 17, 2019 Im no car guy i guess, but i think u should tell ur budget and how new cars we are talking about. :) QuickBreakdown likes this Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Substanz 4964 Posted April 17, 2019 Report Share Posted April 17, 2019 As beginner and young driver, your first interest has to aim on reliability and safety for your first kilometers, there are a lot of good cars available, but what you would want to avoid is money depense in parts and be confident on your car even if you're making little mistakes. The proportion of risks to get an incident/accident is very high at start and during few years (even never for some ^^), so the goal is simple : - Reliability : prevents you from early problems, you want to drive, not out of order on the border of the road (proved by looking on cars lovers websites with facts) - Safety :car has to be well noted on euroncap and to get all the safety organs fully functionnal and multiple - Durable :be sure that the car you will buy is well maintained and maintanable without too much money (parts can be expensive for low budget at start). Don't buy a dying car for low price. And sure, as your first one, you will have a definitive relationship all your life with, as the first one you drived ;) , so choose also the design/look you would like it to have. Good luck in your choice QuickBreakdown likes this Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Doge 704 Posted April 17, 2019 Report Share Posted April 17, 2019 The japanese are the best car maker in my opinion. I would recommend a small, petrol hatchback. I would avoid the cars you suggested as the reliabilty can be questionable and repairs possibly expensive. Substanz and QuickBreakdown like this Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Puddingsbane 1153 Posted April 18, 2019 Report Share Posted April 18, 2019 Fiesta is very fun to drive, clio is awesome but it's french. QuickBreakdown likes this Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dettie 818 Posted April 19, 2019 Report Share Posted April 19, 2019 sorry to say, but no more french cars here soon ... i had 4 peugeot, 3 times a 206 and 1 time a 208. All had issue's. 2 Off them were brand new .issues , clutch, bearings, exhaust. . The 208 had 3000 euro cost in 5y waranty period. Bad fan, gas pedal, front shield bad glued from factory, water inside interior, door switch broken. inside mirror doesn't dim anymore,exhaust rusted true after 5y ... Atm we drive a ford fiesta st line 2018 model.Petrol version. 1.0 i ecoboost engine with 125 hp. About taxes, belgium it's 120 euro for road tax every year. registration cost around 120 euro also 1 time.Consumption of this car is around +- 7L / 100km . Depends on the foot ;)It's a very good car that feels strong. Vw polo i just a bit to expensive for the same as the fiesta.Can't really tell about reliability atm.We have it 5months now. 7500km driven.We had 1 little issue since after 1 week. A bad placed clamp on the cooling circuit. A few drips on the hose. Easy fixed of the garage.Factory can always make a little mistake. QuickBreakdown and Puddingsbane like this Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Supra. 105 Posted April 19, 2019 Report Share Posted April 19, 2019 What About me :( **i mean toyota supra ^^ QuickBreakdown likes this Quote “One good thing about music, when it hits you, you feel no pain. :woot: †© $upra :3 ܓܛܟ Link to post Share on other sites
Evinrude 407 Posted April 23, 2019 Report Share Posted April 23, 2019 Are you talking about a brand new car or a used one? That is a VERY big difference. A) If you are planning to buy a new car and keep mby for 5 years and then buy another one - then the advice is simple. Buy the one that you like the best. They will all last AT LEAST 4-5 years without any bigger problems + there is warranty. B) If you are planning to buy a used OR buy a new one and keep it for, lets say, 15 years, then there is a large amount of research to be done + it is still a bit of a lottery. There are some thumbrules though. 1) If money is not the most importnant part (repairs, maintance, fuel economy etc), then buy the one that you like the most (looks cool, feels cool, drives cool, smth like that). 2) Perfect service history is more importnant than other things - a renault in a perfect order will be probably more reliable that a vw from a owner, who doesnt service his/her car. 3)Diesel is only a good choice, when you drive a lot or haul trailers, etc. Like 100-200 km a day. Otherwise - petrol will be more useful I think. 4) Bigger cc engines are more reliable, than smaller cc engies, although I dont think ford's ecoboost follows that rule. I would be looking at new Å¡kodas myself, if there would be a normal size engine, not 1.0; 1.4 TFSI and stuff like that. TFSI and ecoboost and stuff like that is very cool, lots of power with reasonable fuel economy, but they dont last 500 000 km without problems, like some older models. (Which has no importance, if the car is new!) 5) German cars are more reliable, than French cars. Japanese cars are even more reliable. Japanese cars have rust problems though, at least in these parts, where I live, because they use salt on roads here in the wintertime. I would consider a Honda or Toyota..Mby even Mazda. 6) Comfort and safety are also pretty importnant factors, but smaller models of cars might not have some. Climate control is MUST HAVE. A car with a lot of extras is also easier to sell later and you will get a higher price. 7) The tax and insurance in your country might effect these rules greatly. PS. :drink2: If you have snow, where you live, then if you try a quattro, you will never go back to 2wd again. And I mean quattro, not other 4wd systems based on Haldex. Real quattros have Torsen differential. Been there, done that. In snow - Audi ( or Subaru.) But 2wd is fine too for everyday rounds. PS2: some cars and engines are notorius for bad behavior and faults (for example audi v6 2.5 tdi), and some are quite notoriously reliable (audi/volvo R5 2,5 tdi). Google will assist you here, when you are making the final call. :drink2: QuickBreakdown and Substanz like this Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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